How to make Pine Pollen Tincture

Here is a video of Logan showing you how to make pine pollen tincture.

What you’ll need to do this includes:

  • Mason Jars
  • Pine Pollen
  • Alcohol (recommended high-quality vodka that is at least 70 proof)
  • Spoon or similar instrument for stirring

Optional tools include:

  • Dropper Bottle
  • Funnel
  • Paint Cone Strainer

The process to make pine pollen tincture is actually quite simple. Pour the pine pollen into a glass jar. Then add alcohol in sufficient quality to cover it all. After that you let it sit for about two weeks.

The pine pollen and alcohol will separate. This is good as you just want the pure alcohol, as the pine pollen won’t really have anything beneficial left in it. You can use a dropper to squeeze the liquid off the top. Or you can pour it off into another jar through a strainer to separate the liquid from the powder.

By creating your own tinctures, you can save a lot of money over buying them, although it will take some work. Since the pine pollen tincture has the benefits of delivering the hormonal components even better, many people prefer this form.

I would recommend you start with a dropper-full and you can increase it from there. I personally can feel something stronger when I take pine pollen in tincture form, rather than in a powder. I’ve gone up to 6 full droppers at on time.

Get your pine pollen so you can start making a tincture here.

How to make Pine Pollen Tincture was last modified: April 25th, 2015 by Logan Christopher
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Logan Christopher has been called the Physical Culture Renaissance Man for his many wide-ranging feats of strength. His interest in herbalism, hormones and health began with seeking peak performance mentally and physically.


How to make Pine Pollen Tincture — 96 Comments

  1. Interesting, sort of, but you could have used rectified alchohol and the sludge that is left over after you separate the liquid from the pollen, should be burned in a fireproof container until the ashes are white and then put back into the alchoholc extract for an additional two weeks, strained again thru unbleached coffee filters and then you can store it in a lightproof bottle and use it by the dropperful when you want. Additionally, if you start the extract on the new moon, you can then continue extracting till the next full moon. That makes the extract more powerful. This is an old alchemical method of dealing with the spirits of herbs. You can make rectified alchohol by placing agar in the bottle of vodka and shake it up and then straining it thru a coffee filter. That will get you rectified alchohol without having to distill and re – distill the alchohol several times in order to purify it. The agar absorbs the water and you have pure alchohol left. Good luck and the best to you all.

    • Thanks Bogdan. I’ve heard of and done the full moon process before, just didn’t mention it in this video. As for the rectified alcohol and the burning of the leftover herbs is new to me. How does the burning process work?

      • Just place the sludge in a fireproof dish, place a screen on it, light it and burn it till the ashes are white. You then place the white ashes back into the extract, shake up the jar daily and let the ashes, the salts, get back into the solution and in two weeks, you filter the solution thru an unbleached coffee filter again and you use the extract like you mentioned before. Real simple. Like I said before, it’s an old alchemical method for extracting and re-infusing the salts of the herb before you use the extract for whatever reason. This makes the infusion more potent. Good luck.

        • You can rectify, purify, the alchohol by either distilling and redistilling it several times till you purify it or you can just add agar or even unflavored gelatin to the vodka or brandy, if you like, shake up the alchohol. and the agar or gelatin will absorb the water out of the alchohol, strain it thru an unbleached coffee filter and use the alchohol for extraction purposes then. As for burning it, just touch a flame to the sludge and, since it still has alchohol in it, it will burn, which is why you should cover the sludge with a fireproof screen of some sort to help prevent ashes from flying around.

  2. Sound good Logan. I thought the hormonal boost would be opposite due to having alcohol in it??, in which case is ethanol the same as the vodka your using? Because there is a product with info below that I like although I’m not sure about it but it seems that alcohol is the way if want a herbal tincture that is tho is it worth it:

    So just wondering, is the alcohol or ethanol too content used as a solvent safe to take? i know ive heard of alcohol/ethanol blocking vitamins and being catabolic but i Know nothing about the dosage required.. Was just wondering if it would be ok to take on the daily, Anyway theres barely any in this product but if you could look at this statement and help me out that would be great.

    “This medicinal product contains
    62 vol % ethanol (alcohol), i.e.
    up to 420 mg per 30 drop dose,
    equivalent to 11 ml beer (less
    than a tablespoon) or 4 ml wine
    (lessthan a teaspoon) per dose”

    This product is used for help to sleep, would this be good to use everyday as I’m concerned for health and physique. How much does your dose equate too and again ethanol and your alcoholic vodka the same thing Logan.

    • A minor amount of alcohol should have no effects on the hormones by itself. Some people do seem overly sensitive to alcohol though so they prefer to stay away from even tinctures. Small doses of alcohol will likely cause nothing bad. Ethanol is the chemical name for alcohol and is present in all types, including vodka. Even six droppers full would equate to about less than a quarter of a shot, or a quarter of a beer, so its a minimal amount.

  3. If I wanted to make the Green tea pollen into a tincture, is it the same steps as for the Pine pollen? Or can I combine both and make into an Pine pollen/Green tea pollen tincture in one? Figured I’d ask first to avoid possible mistake.

  4. Can you make a tincture out of the Phoenix Formula the same
    the pine pollen or would you have to do something different?

    • No we wouldn’t suggest that as everything besides the Pine Pollen in that formula is already extracted.

  5. What, about avoiding alcohol due to an allergy, & thereby using vinegar instead to make Pine pollen extract? In other words, will vinegar work just as well?

    • Vinegar can be used but its not as potent of a solvent as alcohol thus is may not extract as much. If you do try it be sure to let us know how it goes. Another option is to still use alcohol but add it to hot water like tea. Alcohol boils at a lower temperature than water, thus you can get it to evaporate while leaving behind what has been extracted.

  6. How much of the tincture is equal to 3 Tablespoon of pine pollen powder? (assuming that I used 1 50 gram bag for the tincture)

    • That’s a good question that I’m not sure the answer too. For one, it will depend on how strong or diluted your tincture is. My guess is it would be something like five droppers full or even more. Remember that in tinctured form you have more available androgens so be careful with too much. That being said we’d love to hear your experiences mega-dosing the tincture.

      • Thanks for the response. I made the tincture with a 1:1 ratio. I used 2 droppers full yesterday and I think it definitely gave me a kick (way more than the powder), I’ll try it again today and see what happens.

        Is there a problem with taking too much of the tincture?

        Also, can taking too much shut down your own testosterone production?

        Do you cycle on and off the pine pollen?


        • Please continue to update us on how it goes for you. We love feedback.

          As with most things there is a point of too much. What that is will depend on each person and where your hormones are at.

          As for it shutting down your own production, it could happen, again with too much or two long. Since it is a natural substance, containing co-factors, it works more with your body than against it. But to be safe we do recommend cycling off it. One week per month would probably be great. Also you could just take it randomly rather than on an everyday type of schedule.

    • Anytime is okay. Some people point to taking it when there are natural spikes in testosterone like in the morning and after working out.

  7. I would like to try making a Pine Pollen tincture but I don’t want to use alcohol. Can it be done successfully using apple cider vinegar? Also is it ok for women to use the phoenix formula as well as the Pine Pollen.

    • Vinegar works but its not as strong as a solvent as alcohol, thus it won’t extract as much. Whether you can make up for this fact by leaving it sit longer I’m not sure.

      Yes Phoenix and pine pollen is safe for women. Our recommendation is to avoid pine pollen tinctures for women but the powders are fine.

  8. Regarding the cycling of your herbs, how are you cycling each of the herbs that you use to maximize natural testosterone production. I’m interested using the pine pollen tincture and your best herbs for improving my strength training and daily male health benefits.

    Thanks for your great information.

    • Great question. Truthfully its going to be a largely individual matter. I don’t have a specific cycle with anything I take, but instead rely on intuition. Experiment and find what works for you.

      • Could you explain how to make it/retrieve it from the cones? Or post a link if I missed it? I have 12 spruce on my property, all 75′ or taller, and I’d like to find a use for the cones. Thank you!

        • From what I understand of how other people do it, the whole cone, pollen and all can be submerged in alcohol to create a tincture.

          Otherwise, getting a fine mesh screen and shaking the pollen loose over it.

  9. Logan, I’m a little confused as to when a tincture is a good idea (e.g., pine pollen) and when there is no real benefit (e.g., your comment above re ingredients in Phoenix Formula being “already extracted”). For example, I’ve read that you should decoct (boil?) or make a tincture from Maral Root powder. However it appears that the Maral Root powder you carry at Super Man Herbs can simply be mixed with a liquid (hooray). Does that mean it is already extracted? Is there some guidance you can offer to us newbies?

    • Good question Brian. Most herbs cannot be consumed in raw form. Pine pollen is an exception and there are others. Our ashwaghanda is also raw powdered root.

      Most of what we sell, like Maral root and everything else at this time, is already extracted, therefore can be consumed straight and mixed into water or any liquid.

      Hope that clears it up, but if you have more questions, don’t hesitate to ask.

  10. I made a tincture but think I got it to thin because after a week it still has not started to separate. Should I add more pollen and thicken it or just leave it and strain it at the end of two weeks. Will being to thin in the mixture affect the potency?

    • If there’s no separation I think that means not enough alcohol. But in any case you certainly can just strain it off and it should be fine.

  11. Has anyone tried preparing pine pollen in a ferment like ginger beer plant or sugar kefir?

    I am drinking my first batch now. It was done in GBP. It tastes great. I wonder if the nutrients are any more available this way.

    • We haven’t tried that but it sounds great, and I could see it improving the nutrition and making it more bio-available in some ways. Care to share your recipe?

      • Well, I wouldn’t call it a “recipe” yet, but I will share what I did.

        First, I cultured the ginger beer plant (GBP) as I normally would. I got mine at I used 1.5L water, 1/2 cup white refined cane sugar, 1tsp unsulfured black strap molasses, 1 unsulfured organic fig, and a pinch of clean sterilized (boiled) powdered egg shell (home made). I added 60ml of GBP culture and covered the jar loosly for 24-36hrs. I then strained it through a plastic (never metal) fine mesh strainer, poured it into a clear flip top glass soda bottle leaving an adiquate air space at the top, added 1 or 2 tsp evaporated cane sugar (depending on how sweet it already was) and 1TBL spoon of pine pollen. I let that sit for a day or more until it carbonated nicely. Then it went into the fridge.

        A word of warning, the bottle has to be “burped” once or twice a day so it does not over carbonate and explode. When opening this brew with the pine pollen, it wants to erupt from the bottle like a fountain due to the powdery nature of the pollen releasing the carbonation, so burp it quickly and when opening it to pour, it should be cold, opened over the sink, and allowed to pour/erupt into a glass.

        The taste is very pleasant, even delicious.

        The same recipe should work for a sugar kefir culture (also from yemoos or try cultures for health), but I havn’t tried it yet. I would love to hear from anyone who tries it.

      • Just an update, I have made several batches and it is working very well.

        I have also been adding 1 tablespoon full of the pollen left over from making tincture in addition to one tablespoon full of virgin pollen. I can’t bring myself to throw out the material used in my incture.

  12. I’m still hazy on how much to put in a mason jar for my tincture. Logan demonstrates in the YouTube video the entire 50 gram bag, wow! I bought the 250 gram Megadose Pine Pollen. So I have to figure out how much 50 grams from that container will be? Any suggestions on the best way to measure that out?

    • A scale! But you don’t have to be accurate and use 50 grams. In the mason jar just cover whatever amount of pollen you put in it with enough alcohol so that it is one or two finger widths above the pollen line.

      • I’m not sure why yours is floating. Maybe its because of the cell wall, or it could be because its a different pine species with different components inside.

        Cooling down the extraction would just slow the process down.

  13. This question goes back to a post from last year (March) when Bogdan said to use agar to rectify the alcohol. My question is how much agar to use to what amount of alcohol?

  14. What else can be used in place of the alcohol? Can I use vegetable glycerin, or apple cider vinegar? Is alcohol better?

    • There’s other comments here on this topic so be sure to read those. Short answer is yes you can use other things though the effects will be slightly different. Can’t say for sure what glycerin or vinegar draws out that is the same or different than alcohol.

  15. Hi Logan,

    How large are the Mason Jars you’re using to empty the whole 50 gram bag? 8 ounces? And how much fluid/tincture are you able to extract this way? Can’t imagine that 1 or 2 fingerbreadths of alcohol above the pollen line can yield that much (at least in the video)


    • They’re a quart so 32 oz. I haven’t measured, although I should, but you’ll get a few ounces off of this. It really depends on how much you add in. Since its powerful stuff you don’t need a whole lot.

  16. Do you have a step by step instruction (guide) with measurement included. For example, one cup pine pollen, two cups of the alcohol.
    I’ve read every post on your blog I just haven’t seen the measurement to use.

    • We don’t currently, but that’s a good idea. I’ll put one together. No familiar with Fire Water but that should work. You can water it down too.

  17. You say in your video that some herbs work good in a tincture of alcohol and others are better with just water. Do you have a list of which one are best with the alcohol tincture and which to use water?

  18. It’s not quite as simple as a list because it depends on what you’re working with. Some things are well established, other’s not so much. A good place to get info on this is the book The Herbal Medicine Maker’s Handbook.

  19. I have a question to ask. I notice the pollen in your jar sinks to the bottom quickly, is that because the cell wall was broken? I am using fresh unbroken pollen, and my pollen is sitting on top of the alcohol. Even after I shake it up, it still rises to the top. Another Question, can the extraction process be done in the refridgerator, or freezer?

  20. Fresh harvest tinctured for 3 weeks in a menstrum of 96% medicinal alcohol. Burned inside my mouth like hell and it was diluted with spring water but I still get the burn more or less. Any idea on the convenient water to alcohol ratio? I worry that too much water may drastically weaken the tincture.

  21. Hello! Really want to try this tincture. Quick question beforehand though. Can everclesr be used for this? Several friends of mine make tinctures and they say they all prefer everclear because its neutral and is high proof. They just mix distilled water ti whatever ratio they need. Second question, if the everclear can indeed be used, would you recommend the same 25/75 alcohol to water ratio? And final question do you add the water to the solution while it is extracting from the pollen or do you use the pure alcohol first for the weeks its steeping then dilute it to your 25/75 mix before you ingest it? Sorry for all the questions but I want to get this right haha.

    • Yes you can use everclear. As for the percentage of alcohol to water those are usually mixed before you add the herb. 25/75 works but feel free to experiment with higher amounts of alcohol.

  22. So just for clarity, after the alcohol tincture has drawn out the hormones, have all of the other benefits of used Pine Pollen been destroyed? What bout the 18 amino acids, the vitamins and the minerals? Are all of these substances drawn out into the liquid tincture leaving behind completely empty powder? Or are the amino acids, vitamins and minerals still available in the powder after the tincture is withdrawn?
    Thanks for the clarity.

    • Some things are going to go into the alcohol. Other things are left behind. All depends on solubility. In general, when making tinctures, the mass that is left behind, called the marc, is disgarded. There are advanced preparations with the spagyric works that then make use of it. We hope to offer spagyric pine pollen tinctures regularly in the future.

  23. My chinese herbsl teacher talked briefly about herbal “wines” made with fresh herbs, alcohol and cane sugar. I happened on tthis thread in my search for recipes and you all seem to know a lot about these kinds of processes. Have you heard about this?

    • There are lots of different ways herbs can be prepared. Wines and other alcoholic drinks are common in China. While methods of preparation change up the results slightly, the main idea is you find some way of taking herbs that works well for you. Did you have specific questions about the wines?

  24. What if you just take the pine pollen powder under tongue? After some of the useful content is absorbed in mouth then IMO the fermentation and peristaltic process will suck everything good from it. Alcohol isn’t better than the ballast contents of the pollen even if it extracts and facilitates the penetration of some stuff into your body. I think it is worth trying…

    • It’s definitely worth trying. I sometimes do it myself and just let the pine pollen powder dissolve in my mouth. If you do try it, please let us know how it worked for you.

  25. I’ve tried it and it seems to work – though I’m combining it with other stuff like zync, vit. D etc. Do not eat some time before and after. However you should know it is not very tasty – it’s like eating a pine tree bran 🙂

  26. Logan,

    Thanks for the guide! I am a bit confused, as seems a handful of others, on your recommendations for proper dilution. You mention in video and elsewhere using 40-50% alcohol as the menstruum but on the bottle sold and elsewhere you also recommend 25% alcohol. Which way do you recommend or am I confused? Isn’t 25% alcohol too low, and preservation-defeating or are you finding this not an issue? If the final recommendation is to, for example, dilute vodka down from the typical 40% to 25% are we doing this before adding to pine powder, or after tincture extraction is complete and marc discarded. Can we do it after; is there benefits before or after?

    • You only need about 20% alcohol for a tincture to be preserved. As for whether 25 or 40 or another % is best, no one has done enough research to know the answer for sure. The short answer is they all work. As for how strong it is compared to what we sell I would say it is roughly equal.

  27. One other question to add, all said and done and in a loose/general sense: when following your method for making a tincture, will we find the end product is stronger or weaker than if purchasing a bottle direct? I’m fine with either way, just curious on what to expect.

  28. Just finished up my 2-week tincture making following your video-guide; thanks for posting this. Any thoughts on the apparent difference in solution results, mine on the left (a clear-yellow end product) and the bottles you sell on the right (milky-white end product)?:

    • The one we sell is made slightly differently. It is extracted in pure alcohol then the water is mixed in later which creates an emulsion which naturally causes diffuse reflection to light. They both work the same in my experience.

  29. If anyone else here makes their own tincture, please comment on alcohol/water percentage and taste. I’m finding my tinctures of vodka 90 proof, brought down to 25% or so (eyeballed it) by dilution of water to be tasting… odd. Smell is ok and doesn’t appear to be rancid, but the taste/sensation is a bit odd/fruity/stale/oily/watery; not sure if the best way to describe it but don’t know how… doesn’t taste like the pre-tinctured bottles.

  30. i live near a park that must have over 2 dozen monterey pines..When exactly should i harvest the pine cones and once i have them how do i extract the pollen

    • Truthfully it is not an easy process. Around spring time the pollen will simply fall out of the catkins when you shake them. It’s not actually in the cones. A useful idea is to just tincture the whole catkins rather than trying to get the pollen out, if you’re doing it at home.

  31. Hi if you use the tincture on weekdays and have a break at the weekends can you use it for life and what’s the recommended daily dose.

    • I am sure you could – you may need to adjust the dosage along the way for yourself though.
      Recommended daily does (you can find this on the side of the bottle as well) is 1-2 droppers daily.

  32. Hi, just wondering if you did make your own and as you say you’re up to 6 droppers at a time. What would be the impact of continuously ingesting alcahol daily.

    • 6 droppers contain about 6 grams of alcohol, which is less than a half of content of one drink. Apparently, this is the perfect measure for decreasing a risk of heart disease.

      “A European meta-analysis of data from 34 studies involving more than 1 million people showed that risk of heart disease decreased with an intake of up to 2 drinks a day for women and up to 4 drinks a day for men, but the maximum protection was seen at a dose of 6g alcohol – approximately half a drink per day.”

      I would also recommend cycling the tincture, so you wouldn’t be taking it every day of a week. Long story short, I don’t think there would be any serious impact from ingesting that amount of alcohol daily if you’re a healthy individual and not on any medication.

  33. update here ,,so i collected the pine pollen from the catkin ,,didnt weigh it but im guessing about 3 grams ,, i poured the vodka until it was about 2 fingers above the pollen the alcohol seperated almost immediatly,,but here is my questiion some of the pine pollen settled to the bottom of the jar but most of the pollen has risen to the top of the jar so what i have is the alcohol sandwiched between the pollen is this normal

  34. Hi Logan can you please tell me how to make the pine pollen tincture without alcohol
    What is the best to use and how long should I let the pine pollen soak
    Thank you

    • Vinegar is a possible solution. Not sure if it has the same phytoandrogen pulling action as alcohol does but you can try it. I have a jar soaking but I haven’t tested it yet. Same amount of time to soak as alcohol should be fine.

  35. Thank you for this great information, i would like to go and gather some pine pollen to make a tincture but my question is that there are so many species of pine trees whats the best one to use?

    thanks again

    • Just about any type should work. I think I recall saying something about NOT to use the Ponderossa pine though. There isn’t enough research to verify if they all have the same stuff or what may be most potent.

  36. I realize older pine pollen may not be as potent, as fresh or plentiful, example harvesting in May/June rather than March. But, I was wondering if there are health benefits & nutritional value to a late harvest? Are the left over castings beneficial at all, whether in a tincture or ground up?

    • That is a very interesting question Nickol. I would think that the nutritional profile would change as the weeks went by, however, I think consuming the wild stuff would always have a benefit to your health. Maybe it would help to think of it like a fruit harvest, say for peaches. If you are like me, you really only eat these when they are in season, during the summer. You can tell when the fruit is an early harvest and not that good (though still edible and technically, food) and when the final seasons fruit is available. There is marked difference (in nutrition profile as well no doubt) but the entire time, the peaches are edible. I see no reason that the same is true for pine pollen.

      The castings I have no idea about. I have not seen any mention of that anywhere but there might be something to them. Experimentation is the spice of life!

  37. Hi Logan, i would like to know the dilution of 500ml of 190proof alcohol to make pine pollen tincture. Could you please tell me how many grams of pine pollen should i put in the mason jar.

    • So while the different proofs of alcohol do change how much to use, we still recommend you cover the pine pollen with a finger or two above the top of the pp with alcohol. 190 proof is pretty caustic stuff and I don’t think it is entirely necessary for pollen. I only use that stuff for roots myself to speed up the time in bottle. Leafs and pollen are a lot less fibrous and therefore lose constituents to the alcohol faster. A good 80 proof should even work fine for the pollen and with more water in it will pull water-solubles out with it too. The choice is entirely up to you though.

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